Both sound good for your application, but I think you're going to lean towards the Atomic. SE, Hi SE. Built with a light wood core and Stocklis Titec Pro metal topsheet, these things are true Stocklis--worthy of the praise and price for dedicated all-mountain skiers. Im 6-1 and 205lbs. Have fun! Heck, you could probably even ski blindfolded and with your hands tied behind your back. I was thinking the Nordica Enforcer 100, though maybe I should be looking at the 93. The Bonafide is worth a look as well, with a 98 mm waist, the thing holds a really good edge. Was thinking that the M5 might not be the best all rounder when I need to ski a bit slower with my young family on groomers. They will need to set the forward pressure, DIN, toe height, and test the bindings with your boot to ensure safety. It's a heavier ski for sure, and while you could grow into it in terms of performance, it may be on the prohibitive side at first. All use some metal, but are also way more playful than the Mantra in soft snow. Metal skis are tough in the bumps, especially hard ones. A lot of that has to do with the tail shape, which is more bulbous than most of the competition. Advanced: This might be one of the hardest groups to identify. All of these skis are very versatile and have high-performance ceilings while remaining accessible. have fun! The mondo point size is the generic boot size that every boot maker uses it. Then parabolic shapes came along. Have fun! Adam in Toronto, Hi Adam! They just also have that low gear that you need for skiing with kids. Have fun! It still holds an edge well and actually has good vibration damping, but not as quick edge to edge as the QST. I have been skiing all my life and I am still fairly aggressive, albeit slowing down a little each year. You are not scared of speed, but also want something easy to handle. Hope that helps! Looking for your thoughts on those as well. The bad news, is that it can be a bit more difficult to do- but thats why were here. The 169 Enforcer 100 would probably be more akin to the 172 Atomic. This little bump out in the tail gives the ski a surprising amount of energy at the end of the turn, making the Declivity remarkably agile in linked carving turns. SE, Hi, Aggressive skiers who are looking for something just a bit more manageable than the burliest skis out there. SE. After seeing your youtube video I have narrowed it down to the following skis: Salomon QST 99, Atomic Bent Chetler 100, Nordica Enforcer 100 or Fischer Ranger 102 FR. Cove- I raced and currently coach racing so I've decided I need something that I can demonstrate drills on but still take the kids into the trees when they lose focus and need a break. Could be powder, park, groomers, trees, or bumps, you do not care, and neither does the Camox. You do not put limits on what youre going to ski on a given day. Fitting cross country skis is different then fitting alpine skis. It will hold an edge like a GS ski on firm snow, and has a preference to complete a carving turn, as opposed to letting the skier release the tail edge and smear the ski. I have demoed the Enforcer 100s our west and really liked them a lot! You may be planning a comparison like this already, but here is my question Im a New England skier, NH & VT mostly. All over when it comes to terrain - bowls, trees, bumps from time to time, and on groomers just depends on the day between tighter turns and super g turns. Happy skiing! They rip on the hard packed groomers but like I said I am just not in love with them. Aggressive skiers who spend most of their time on-trail. With a fair amount of camber underfoot, the Maverick 100 is energetic and snappy, and thanks to the new Omatic Core construction, the skis are light in the swingweight as well. I demo'd the Bent Chetlers last month and liked them a lot, although the size was a bit short (164's as that was what they had - I'm 5'8" and 190). Rather than snowplow your way down blue squares, youre able to use the shape of your skis to make parabolic or carving turns. Looking for Some Guidance? Any suggestions? Salomon added basalt and doubled the amount of carbon and flax in the QST 99 for 2019. 3D Radius Sidecut applies to this 102, and allows for a great variety of turn shapes and styles, even with a ski that has dual-metal laminate. It's about as versatile and friendly of a ski that you'll find. Also something that wants to and feels more natural in the air. SE, Hi SE, Bent 100 Skis. Plus last year my kids just wanted to ski the glades all day, we love it in the trees when the weather gods allow. Hope that helps! They float and carve very well and have a ton of versatility. If you love the power and precision of a dual-metal laminate ski, but want something slightly easier to ski, the Maverick 100 Ti is a great choice. Very informative site and chats. This narrower brethren is built for a bit more all-mountain skiing, but still has the long tip rocker profile of the 108, making this 100 a very smooth competitor in fresh and soft snow. Thanks, HI Phil! Thanks for the response! SE. I love the Bent 100 as well, but it's pretty flexible. Hi Joe D! SE. Regarding the QST 92, do you recommend the 177 cm or the 185 cm length? Cheers from the Great White North. Atomic vantage 97c SE, Hi SE! There is also some metal and rubber underfoot that helps boost stability and also helps with binding retention. With some tweaks to the 2022 model, skiers get more length options (yay!) However, I'm having a rough time in deep tracked powder and crud, which I know these skis aren't ideal for. Thanks. First of all, love your reviews! Now I'm confused, I'm looking for a ski like the Kore that will absorb the big blows in chopped up snow, vs throwing me. I'm looking for something that supports conditions as one finds them on the doable on a random ski week (I fly in, so I don't get to take advantage of powder days except by coincidence with my travel days) out west, with the limitation of a one-ski quiver. Lower in the tail than the tip, these skis end up being remarkably playful in fresh snowmore so than youd think with a ski with two sheets of metal. The Daemon is probably what you're looking for in that lineup. The Rustler 10 has metal underfoot that tapers towards the tip and tail of the ski, so it feels more stout underfoot, but since you don't ski terribly fast, you might not need that metal. I heard the Marker Griffon 13 makes trouble sometimes (even out of the box). It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. Playfulness abounds in the QST 98, and it does have a lot of soft-snow benefits to it, as one of the better floaters of the group, allowing skiers to maximize the potential and capabilities of the ski no matter what the conditions or terrain. Who it's For: Skiers that love soft snow and/or like to jump off stuff. Any others that I should be giving consideration to?, Hi Bernie! Not bad for $719 ($990 cdn). If you're looking for a quick turner with a soft-snow personality, the Sky 7 is a great choice. Rossignol is willing to give up some stability and vibration damping in this ski in exchange for maneuverability and forgiveness, which is a popular choice among skiers who like to spend most of their time off trail in the trees, moguls, etc. Take a look at the chart below, and if you have any trouble figuring out your size range, scroll past the cart to where we provide more information regarding these categories. Its a quick-turning ski, though, so a fantastic choice for woods and bumps, even with the stiffnessthe lightness more than makes up for it in the maneuverability department. Any longer, and youd likely just be along for the ride. A friend recommended the Nordica Enforcers 100. I'd go 92 unless you want something a bit burlier and wider. At 94 mm underfoot at 180 cm length, it's not that narrow, but it still has great edge grip, especially underfoot. The shape combined with the ski's light weight make it easy to maneuver. Have fun! I've found that former/current racers prefer skis like the Mantra and Bonafide to the other models on your list due to the construction. All stable and smart skis. What do you think? The Dynastar M-Pro 99 has a unique build and shape to it that sets it apart from other skis on this list, and its interesting both hand-flexing it and looking at the profile of the ski as it sits on the wall. I'm leaning toward the M5 Mantra, but also like the QST99 and the 98TI. Does the metal in the kastle or blizzard's make those a more appropriate choice? I'm 40, 6'2'' and 180lbs, spent all my life on groomers. ), Hi Kevin! Doh! Long answer: You feel like a really good candidate for a Blizzard Rustler 9 or a Nordica Enforcer 93. From steeps and trees to bumps and groomers, the versatility is very surprising for something with this rocker profile and taper shape. Have fun! I'm 5' 7'', 175 lbs, mostly ski in Tahoe. It loves to pop and hop around the mountain, while this new version really lets you lay it over on firm snow more than the previous Origins. The surprising part of the ski, though, is the amount of energy and snap that it generates underfoot and through the tail. I guess there are three elements to my question: How wide--should I stay with the 90 mm class or would the 100 mm class be more appropriate given that I don't do many groomers? SE. The tip is a bit different of a story, with the spoonier shape leading to better floatation. Its not as rockered in the tail as some of the other skis on this list, and that adds to the strong finish of the arc. It crosses over between different terrain and snow conditions very well, and is a more forgiving ski than those with lots of metal and less rocker, but don't forget about that metal. Think of it as a shoe size, like a "size 11" for example. I have been skiing on K2 Amp Phantom 160's since about 2013. SE, Have you guys skied on or reviewed the 2019 Line Sick Day 104? It goes from icy moguls to powdery troughs to firm groomers without missing a beat. It uses some of the longest rocker in this comparison article, especially in the tip. I have been spending hours reading through all of them while on Christmas vacation. It uses a lot of rocker, and relatively pronounced early taper too. Thank you! The Tracer is the feather of the group, and I'd say that's a better choice for skiers who are looking for more of an alpine/alpine touring ski versus resort-specific. Murray. Since its been a while. Have a great season on the slopes. Hope that helps! For your light option, go with the Rustler, but if you're looking to go a bit heavier (again, not much), I'm a Pinnacle 105 fan. Skiers with very loose Achillies tendons and strong ankles will particularly enjoy these noodles. What's an appropriate length for me? Here goes! I'm really torn between the Bent Chetler 100 (180cm) and the Sick Day 104 (179 or 186cm) for a 50/50 one ski quiver mounted with Shifts to be used mostly in the French Alps. Both in that mid-90's range with some tip and tail rocker, so you get good flotation when it snows, but are still great carvers on trail. If youre looking to buy a powder ski, the natural notion is to go a bit longer. That said, from everything you've said, the Salomon QST 99 feels like a really good choice. Hope that helps! I might say the Enforcer 94 is a better choice for eastern ice, and gives you a bit more quickness and less material overall. Theres a bit of tail rocker, but nothing crazy, while the tip rocker is slightly more dramatic, leading to a greater splay and rise. Also, how would you compare the DPS Phantom 2.0 to a good glide wax put on by a very experienced race ski tuner? Wir haben uns die Zeit genommen , den Gegenstand grndlich zu analyseren und zu bewerten, um Ihnen eine umfassende Summary seiner Anwendungsbereiche zu liefern. The mix of poplar and beech, arranged in vertical stringers, carries the quality and precision of Kastle skis through, offering that high-end feel and energy with more of a minimalistic build. I'd say you're right on the money in terms of length in those models. Now, to skis. The Kastle MX 99 is stiff, powerful, and holds an edge better than just about anything in the 100 mm category. What would you recommend? Because it's lighter, it will get deflected more than heavier skis. We've found that a lot of former snowboarders really like the Bent Chetler 100. Looking forward to hearing from you! I'm bouncing around all over the place with little control and getting tired fast. When hand-flexing the ski, its noticeably stiffer in the tip versus the tail, but thats not to say the tail is soft by any means. Mostly skiing Fernie, Lake Louise, and smaller hills in the area. I am so glad one of my colleagues told me about your reviews on YouTube, because they have inspired me to finally replace my 2012 Volkl Mantras. Who it's For: You like the feel of a ski with metal laminates, but you want more maneuverability and forgiveness in soft snow conditions. Im a fairly advanced skier, but want/need to improve on the bumps. This construction is similar to what we see in race skis. The rocker and early taper gives it smooth performance in soft snow conditions, but the key thing to remember here is that it's still quite stiff. Hi SE, Can you describe some of the nuances between these? The enforcer does what I ask of it in the woods, though the length can get tough in east coast trees at times, but It feels like Im trying to turn a ship when in icy bumps and almost always leads to some backseating or picking up too much speed. Yes, you will certainly miss the playfulness of the Rossi versus the E100, but I think it's worth it. They're solid bindings. Do you have any suggestions what to look for or to buy? Characteristics of an advanced skier would be: the ability to ski most, if not all trails, an ability to ski fast, regular ability to ski off trail, and more traditionally, the ability to link full carving turns at full speed. Hope that helps! John, Hi John! SE. I've been skiing a totally different ski, Cochise, there awesome if I'm on my A game and want to rip but I'm getting older find them a bear anymore. So with that said what would you recommend for an old east cost bump skier who wants to soft it up and have quicker edge to edge? -Tom, Thanks Tom! That said, the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the Rustler 9 are simply narrower versions of the 105 and the 10, so that's worth a look as well. Hope that helps! Sounds to me like you're leaning to QST! While the previous ski on the list, the Mindbender 99 Ti, leans more to on-trail performance, this Salomon Stance 102 skews more to the fresh stuff. Rather fit for a fat old man. Please note: We are unable to mount Look Pivot bindings because the actual boot is required due to the extremely small amount of adjustment in the heel. They will need to set the forward pressure, DIN, toe height, and test the bindings with your boot to ensure safety. I've also considered the Armada Invictus 99 TI which is not on this list but probably compares? It's relatively lightweight and noticeably quick to maneuver, like the Sky, but it has better torsional stiffness, more stability at speed, and a longer effective edge because the rocker isn't quite as pronounced. I'm looking at a bunch of skis in the 90-100 cm range. If you liked your old Bonafide, there's no real reason to switch it up, but I will say that the Enforcer is just as stable as the Bonafide, and is livelier and more playful. Jesper, Fits well! The Line Sick Day 104 is definitely more directional, and they ski a bit short for the stated length. From nose blocks and butters to tail stands and nollies, these skis are built and shaped to handle the most creative freestyle ski minds on the planet. Rough and tumble skiers who love to be aggressive and get a lot of performance as well as playfulness out of their skis. I have a connection that can get me any Armada ski at a discount, but wondering whether something like the Rustler 10s would be a better ski for me than the Tracer 98s? Expert: Hands down, youre the best skier on the mountain. If you're looking for a strong-carving ski in that 100mm range, I'd check out the Volkl Mantra 102 and the Nordica Enforcer 100. But once you find the sweet spot, you'll be hooked! Josh, Love the reviews guys and your youtube vids! Is there a reason it didn't end up on your list for me? Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? If youre truly an expert skier, you probably know it. I think the Ripstick is a better complement to the Enforcer. Love it but on slushy days or out west I feel as if a little extra girth might come in handy. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Im currently on 2015 bonafides in a 180 and ski them pretty well but they are a heavy tiring ski. Have fun! As a replacement for the Menace 98, the M-Free 99 borrows more from the wider M-Free 108 than its outgoing twin-tip brethren. Not impossible, but certainly on the long side for your stats. Elan Ripstick (96 or 106? For the weight, though, were impressed with the stability and energy out of the ski, as Heads use of carbon is pretty effective in generating an impressive strength to weight ratio. I'm not a speed demon, more like ability to turn freely and easily. Also, not necessarily. I was skiing a few years old Liberty Origin 106 176 cm which I like but wanted something that ripped groomers better without all the tip chatter but was also good in bumps, trees and something I could tour in. Considering your weight, I'm thinking either QST 99 or Ranger 98 Ti would be best. While youll still need a final adjustment done before you can ski, providing us with your boot sole length is absolutely crucial if youd like us to send your skis pre-mounted with your bindings. For more stability at speed, that does come at the price of weight, the QST is a great ski for sure. Sidecut extending beyond the rocker is one of those things that they keep talking about that doesnt really make a lot of sense until you ski it and realize what a precise and fun-loving ski this is. Im currently on the Brahma- I believe its the 2015 and I do like it but thinking of getting a new setup- maybe slightly wider. If youve looked all over and still cant find your BSL, its also acceptable to measure along the bottom of the boot from the very tip of the toe, to back of the heel- just make sure you measure in Millimeters! Specifically, I've been eyeing the Sky 7 and the QST 99. I just purchased the Ranger 102 as my soft snow resort / tree ski with the Masterblaster 96 as my firm snow ski. I had in mind either the QST 92&99 or the Rustler 9&10 are there any other skis that might fit my needs better? The Titanal Frame style of build in the 102 helps to not only achieve a high level of precision to the edges, but also lightens the load ever so slightly to deliver energy and agility to this already burly stick. With minimal rocker and taper to the ski, it does hook up easily, but if youre looking to glean the best response from it, you are going to need to put in your own effort as well. Glad to hear you've got some new boots that are working well for you! Thanks so much for the feedback! 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