Could it be true that T-Formex will perform like Royalex? Their Spirit IIs weigh in at 57#s. We've owned our Royalex Spirit II for about one year now. I am very pleased with the boat. Well, I decided to keep the Grumman but after paddling several canoes, I decided on the Spirit II in Royalex. We were very pleased with the canoe's performance. Good paddling in any weather and water condition up to class II whitewater.. But at the same time it tracks great and is very stable. The Wenonah 17 carried the brand into their modern lineup of over twenty tandem canoes. Wenonah Canoe is currently in the pre-production phase of their Spirit II in T-Formex, and has plans to produce seven models in Esquif's long-awaited Royalex replacement in 2017. It went on to become the most successful canoe model in Wenonah's line. I put my hands on a Wenonah Spirit II in T-Formex today. Like a Swiss Army Knife, the Spirit II does everything. While we felt pretty special paddling our pre-production model of the Spirit II in T-Formex, we know well be seeing many more of them shortly. Hull Material Royalex Length 17' Weight 65 lbs Gunwale Width 35" Capacity Excellent Stability Excellent Manueverability Excellent Speed Average. You must earn your speed with a discounted cadence. We had NO idea of where to even start. While it is not light at around 75 pounds (we installed a third seat and some other customizations), it is lighter than my old aluminum battleship and I was able to portage it without difficulty. Keewaydin 16 Combi - Swift Canoe & Kayak - People Who Know, Paddle Swift. I t is a great canoe. The Spirit II is great for the Canadian style as well. They left out one thwart and aluminum gunnwales. I've taken the Spirit II on a number of river trips. Location. Its a definite 10 out of 10. The kevlar layup is light and tough. If you're not planning to portage or you're super strong then an aluminum or royalex canoe is just fine. The boat tracks extremely well for a wider touring boat, very stable for a fishing boat, and carries an incredible load. She would buy this boat brand new, and so would I. After two years of building the Spirit in fiberglass and Kevlar, Wenonah found the process of removing it from the mould was too cumbersome and made a modification to the nose. As for tracking, it lacks real tracking by my wifes standards. If you are larger, keep that in mind when choosing a canoe based on reading online comments as initial stability is probably going to be somewhat less for you than an average person's. The oil canning is quite bothersome. I am pretty tough on my boats and this one has come through just fine. Real Stable, wont capsize until the the gunnel is level with the water. Too much effort is spent correcting its course (in racing canoes, you want every stroke of the paddle to move you forward, not back onto course). Admittedly, I have a special interest in choice of canoes due to my desire to sail my boat more than paddle. My wife and I had talked about getting or building an all-around touring canoe. Over 10,000 Spirit IIs have been built since 1988. For example, let's say we have a 17.4-foot canoe that is 3.5 feet wide. versatile and stable tandem canoe with excellent performance. straps across the roof it was solid all the way home (south of Pittsburgh). weight: 57 lbs. During testing on the Green River in Utahs Canyonlands National Park, the tandem cruised well, carved turnsthanks to 1.5 inches of rockerand deflected windchop even when loaded to within inches of its gunwales. But with larger paddlers any canoe loses some of its initial stability -- we are both heavier and sit higher, so generate a higher center of gravity than an average pair of paddlers. #3. But its best feature (beyond the versatile hull design) is its material: The rugged Royalex (an ABS plastic/foam/vinyl composite) bounced off rocks with no damagewhile keeping the Spirit's price tag from sinking your budget. The Penobscot features Old Town's unique adjustable center seat/carry system. stability, speed, and durability of this Royalex canoe. After 2 years with my Spirit 2 (RX) I would have to say I agree with choire_dog. Finally, if you do buy one, add Wenonah's bent-shaft Brio paddle to the order. It does everything Wenonah says it does. Since it still makes me happy every time my wife and I use it I haven't found a reason to replace it. Royalex, which is not made anymore, is considered the sweet spot for weight vs durability. GREAT CANOE!!! The canoe they dreamed up was 17-feet-long, had a 34-inch waterline, a 36-inch maximum beam, one-and-a-half to two inches of rocker and clean entry and exit lines. Since we both grew up with "camp canoes" we didn't know a canoe could behave so amazingly well in the water. We sport a family of 6. The boat is very responsive and both inital and final stability felt secure. The boat tracks well and is very stable. This gives a very secure connection and eliminates rivet heads on the exterior. Anyway we took it on countless day trips last year and stable are an understatement even with the dogs both in the 60lbs. It slices through waves (which is a good thing normally), but without a cover, deep waves can roll right in over the gunwales. photoguy190 . Very stable and roomy with 2 adults , 1 10 year old and an active golden retriever. The Spirit II . Last month it went on its first BWCA trip and I would give it an A. - room for center seat and it moves right along. Ten years of dragging over cypress logs, across coral and down boat ramps topped of by lying in the killer sun in my back yard hasn't touched it. We purchased a Mitchell paddle for my son. 10/17/2010 01:49PM (Thread Older Than 3 Years). We can unequivocally recommend the Spirit II as a long distance canoe! I was also impressed with the ease with which the Spirit II rolled over rocks on which I typically would have at least paused. It is great for the Susquehanna river - very stable, even when turning around for gear and fishing. width: 34 1/2" 1,041. These canoes are much lighter than polyethylene or aluminum canoes and can be built in nearly limitless designs. I found the Spirit used so that makes is quite a bit cheaper. Mine came from a bwca Outfitters. I use the boat for a mixture of day trips on flat water and estuary paddling in Southwest Florida (mangroves and twisting tidal creeks). I finally got my Spirit II in royalex out on the Buffalo river in NW Arkansas this weekend for a 10-mile float after some heavy rains. We now bought our 2nd We-no-nah canoe. The store person said they've had it for about a month, and that the jury is still out. It was equipped with a third seat which I thought to be a little funny at first. The Pack is very light weight, but dangerously tippy, tracks like an intertube, and has no where near it's advertised 600# capacity. It has taken a few significant hits and though we have dents to show for them, the canoe was never compromised. Rain or shine kids or packs or just empty the Spirit II is every thing I read and asked about in making my decision to purchase it and more which was nice to see in todays day and age. The seat in the middle is great for solo paddling! I am a harsh critic generally but I urge anyone thinking about a canoe to check out a kevlar Spirit II. It also became the center of a family of touring boats. Problem solved. The first time we put the paddles in the water, I turned around, and she had as big of grin as I did! That said, I've sold the J-18 and I really need to demo a Solo-Plus Back to Spirit II and stability. i love my spirit 2. it prob weighs about 70+ pounds with all the gear i bungee to it while portaging. Roomy enough for Boundary Waters style trips, it's even more stable when loaded. old and weight 260#. Flex Core 54 lbs Kev. I rotate paddling techniques during a trip, to keep myself from straining muscles. Ive even done some wake jumping when the powerboats got too thick. With probably 70 pounds of gear and neither of us are teeny people, the canoe handled superbly. Wenonah Spirit II: Royalex: 17" 34 3/4 67 lbs: $40: $240: Wenonah Prism (solo) Kevlar: 16'5 30.75 12.5 37 lbs: $46: $276: Wenonah . And it portages well, too. The Kevlar version weighs 42 pounds and costs $2,099, making it small by comparison. Several times a year we try to introduce people to the sport. Wenonah's Tuf-weave material is an interwoven fabric made of 50% polyester and 50% fiberglass that out performs either material alone. The bucket vs. woven seat debate is one easily decided: sit in one, and decide what you like. CHECK PRICE ON SEA EAGLE. 2012 Wenonah Spirit 2 II Royalex canoe, 17ft. In whitewater and rapids it just does exactly what you expect and what you want. Handles well solo from bow seat. Does well with kids. In our Ultra-light construction a structural-foam core and ribs are laminated into the hull and sides. It is probably a fine canoe, but I found the seats too high. don't want to worry about my canoe. If you continue using this website, you agree to our privacy and legal agreement. Like a Swiss Army Knife, the Spirit II does everything. Just locally, not in the BWCA. The canoe handles well and is easy to turn, has decent glide. The pair pulled up their bar stools andsketched the ideal model on a wrinkled napkin. The Aurora is a downsized version of the Spirit II, with all that boat's virtues, but a foot shorter in length. If the seats are mounted low enough This canoe can hold up to 4 people. to tip this canoe! . It's big enough for . The origins of the Spirit begins in 1981 when Wenonah sales and distribution representative Kurt Renner was sitting with a Wenonah dealer from Missoula, Montana. In every condition experienced, the Spirit II did an exceptional job. I have the Tufweave X-Rib model. We were just amazed at the Spirit's speed, tracking, light weight and responsiveness. Wenonah Spirit II #3 in Touring Canoes vote up. that's what I'd be pitching to retailers. In other words, you feel it firm up about 3" or 4" from the inboard gunwale, but lean just a little more to 2" and secondary disappears instantly then you're in the water. I find it very easy to paddle(I do all of the paddling, my wife just comes along for the ride)and maneuver. Maybe that's why we sell more Spirit II's than any other model. Great for the beginners and more experienced paddlers alike. Today we The next day we ran Moshannon falls (a Class 2+ rapid with a few haystacks with hidden rocks) with no serious problems, then many unamed riffles. We've used it for more than 30 years to construct extremely light and tough canoes. The boat is beautiful. It was a sad day when I sold it a few years ago, but I needed to make room for my Champlain with the growing family. We problem solved and she decided to buy a canoe. Mar 5, 2018. I don't want to be wanting a lighter canoe after one trip. Vagabond 14' 6" More Details. Best aerobic workout ever. In five days it seemed to have the full spectrum tossed at it from big swirling waves on Snowbank Lake with no oilcanning that I noticed. Wenonah finds the right formula. Tracks well and turns even better. Owned a kevlar ultra light with wooden gunnels for five years. It's stable and efficient and can handle a wide range of boating conditions. Easy to turn and tracks great. We took a 7 day flat water trip in Northern Idaho. It's a great boat, probably what I'd get if I could have only one tandem. I have a Spirit II Tuf-weave (64 pounds) Its a bit heavy but I like the boat and Its not so heavy that I feel the need to replace it any time too soon. Read reviews for the Spirit II by Wenonah Canoe, Inc. as submitted by your fellow paddlers. I'll experiment with it. No wonder Canoe & Kayak Magazine said, "if you could have only one canoe to serve all your needs for the rest of your life, the Spirit II would be one of the very few candidates." Prior to paddling the Spirit I had a Sawyer X17 which my wife and I paddled for many years. Meanwhile,canoe builders are lining up to use T-Formex, but Wenonah Canoe was thefirst, outside of Esquif themselves, to produce canoes in the new material. 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