Also belying its 182 roots were a strut-braced wing and seating for four. I felt much more confident in IFR in the 210. Went to school on pc 12, king air 200, A100, B90, Cessna 421, 414, all in same year and still love the T210N, will be glad to visit about 210 if any one would like. I owned two 210s, flew them for over 30 years and 5000 hours. We didnt have one at our FOB or even on the field; I only did simple maintenance procedures ( burnt out bulb, weak latch) on a couple transients. It has nothing to do with the type of engine. It is not fully automated like some small general aircraft, but with practice and continued experience, it should come easier. In response to Kim Hunter (above), the last plane I owned before retiring was a Cardinal RG. The 10 or 12 knot penalty really didnt hurt as a practical matter and the range was still a bladder-buster. The last V-tail was built in 1982. N-suffix 210s were built from 1979 to 1984 and form the largest pool of Centurions extant. First, I had the pleasure of flying an honest-to-goodness holding pattern, one of only two Ive ever flown for real in my 24 years of flying. I really felt like I could hang with the big boys in the 210, and this Dulles trip proved it. Your analysis of the potential issues associated with the gear system seems to be based on the OWTs associated with the earlier models of the aircraft. In two instances, the Cessna 210 has mysteriously disappeared. Finally, NO. (Photo courtesy of Bruce Burley). Composite construction should reduce the manufacturing cost of that beautiful cantilever wing. endobj Vapor and excess fuel from the engine-driven fuel pump and fuel/air control unit are returned by way of the selector valve to the reservoir tank of the wing fuel tank system being used. 95% of my flying was solo. Its an out performer in speed, load and with pressurization. Would you go pressurized and what model would you think would be best? The Centurion may rise again. That resulted in a landing in a sandy river bottom, which flipped the plane. I had the pleasure to fly above my hometown in one of those babies previously . Once I had an instrument rating (later that year) I stopped using the airlines at all. A trip into Washington Dulles one day in 2004 sold me on the airplane. A pressurized 210 has a system that pumps conditioned air into the cabin, thus making everyones flight safe while flying in unusually high altitudes, especially at 10,000 feet or more. Of course I was IMC, of course there was a little ice, and of course there were a few bumps over the eastern edges of the Appalachian Mountains. I wont say it was fun, but it was certainly no big deal in the 210. Keepem coming. Great article. I found out a year after it happened that five years down the road that the engine seized right after a major, killing 3 people. Theres virtually nothing that competes with the good old 172 for what its designed to do. They are real problematic. Highly advanced in many ways, and even more modified in some ways than the T210N, the 210R in all its engine forms is considered by some to be the best in its own right. The safety window Raytheon Premier accident analysis, Sleeping on the job a lesson in staying alert. It has nothing to do with the type of engine. Anyway who knows. Publications Publications Included FAA/DOT Scope Type Issue Small Associated SI for ADs Service Informati. With no wheels or struts in the way, the view out the window was unparalleled and sightseeing on a long trip was good fun. {.B-nhz;nH0@L7^xE7BTNt /"tey!Ik\"L;[(zc4ADh#?p{vFNl uD-hK|q' (Z@s& Had to pump them down once. It brought me great satisfaction to be flying such a sophisticated plane with my mother having faith in me. Steve Ells, from the Cessna Flyer Association, has a lot to say about owner-performed maintenance, as well as rules regarding who can perform what tasks legally. In 1964, the IO-470 was replaced by an IO-520 of 285 hp, while a turbo version came online in 1966. Pity they dont make them anymore. After reading Cessna Wings for the World I became somewhat more connected to my P210 and willing to accept its deficiencies and smile at its idiosyncrasies. Put a couple of fact. Flap extension speeds 15 degrees 160Full 140 11 Q Vno A Normal operating range top of green 210 12 Q Vne A Never exceed 245 Red line at top of yellow arc 13 Q Vcc A Cruise climb 130-140 Decks in Flight TrainingClass (29): Commercial Pts Maneuvers Multi Engine Sequence (Cessna 310) Weather Inoperative Equipment Aeromedical Factors ]f.hLkfEjEp{tQ !u
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