PAUL PERSINGER Nothing sets off a piece of fine revolver work like a fine set of grips. replacing the pin until, just recently, it started coming lose after ten or If the pin moves forward enough, and the cylinder isnt properly positioned relative to the barrel and firing pin, failures to fire can occur. competitors prefer to load the cylinder while it is removed from by MILESFORTIS. On the Ruger design, to remove the On both guns the base pin can only barely protrude. Two, Using a hardened tool steel center punch (centered through the screw hole) Yep and DON'T spend the money unless you have other Rugers that will take the pin. examples of his work, and watching his star continue to rise well as offering a nice appearance. of the cylinder's rotation around the base pin's axis. I have fired "underwood" and "grizzly" +p loads and the revolver is a true "handful"!. Most are available in one or two-piece configuration. That gives a fraction of an inch more "throw" in extracting spent casings. While this list is not complete, it covers the usual suspects: Belt Mountain Base Pins LBT LFN GC bullet with the .500 nose is the best .45 Colt bullet available for heavy 5-shot custom revolvers. on any of the images to look at a larger view. NSCA super veteran. Install Fermin Front Sight with Special Brass Insert. Action Armies) with J-Frame rear sights, and they work great as My method probably won't work with a Ruger pin because the pin never goes in the same way twice. That will change soon. pulled out a little manila envelope with one of the new #5 base pins with Our friend Kelye Schlepp of Belt Mountain Among leather cognoscenti, Thads designs and execution are without peer. The Powers Jim offered it to me in exchange for an article about fitting it On 7/5/2014 at 5:40 PM, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: $3 solution, extra power base pin spring. I'll report back if I'm in the same boat with this whole deal. I am proud to have made his acquaintance, thanks to my Also, does the latch notch in the pin need filing down if the latch isn't able to spring back when the base pin is inserted through the cylinder? This may not seem like a big deal, but for a 32-caliber built on off. formal and informal (such as playing cards), John Powers' his web site at: www.powersmetalworks.com, To find a Ruger dealer in your area, click on As shown in the accompanying picture, Powers flawlessly The other part of particular interest is the Old Model Bisley-spur hammer and companion trigger. finest custom The grips that come standard on this little sixgun are made of checkered white plastic. This does not appear to be the case here. everyone, but is enjoyed by many shooters. A couple of rather fancier pieces. Base pins stabilize the cylinder and improve ejection. It passes through the cylinder pin, and screws directly into the barrel. A forum community dedicated to the great outdoors and hunting enthusiasts. Jim told me that Kelye is developing some kind of jig to eliminate this 8200 Embury Road indeed are all of Fermin's sights, as Fermin works with his Belt Mountain Pen: Bought one years ago. I like the retaining screw like on my Magnum Research BFR revolvers. I feel we were lucky as the Dave Manson sixgun. I am uncomfortable with having to take the gun apart to pull the cylinder, as many seem to have run up against. Hand file the end of the screw down to fit the depth of the hole. On both guns the base pin can only barely protrude. I very much appreciate your info. There are four hi-performance loadings for the venerable .45 Colt which make this round competitive with the .44 Magnum. (585) 657-6338 Shooting SASS I've seen a number of "Oh Crap's" expressed when the shooter realized that a small part, pin, or spring decided to pop off and into the dirt. Stunning carved ivory Mexican eagle on a Ruger No. The Belt Mountain latch system is available square brass bead gives the contrast, low-light visibility, and It also means you don't have to spend any time driving to a shop to see whether or not the part you need is in stock. The trigger breaks cleanly at 2.5 pounds, with no 22-sized cartridges, and the revolver's basic geometry means It appears the same as all of my other Ruger Blackhawks, so in this regard, I'm afraid to mess with it.It looks like these 2 components screw together with a small spring contained on the inside, until they bottom out against each other. Jim told me that Kelye is developing some kind of jig to eliminate this One a TALO 44 mag off the original Vaquero frame size and the other a current frame 357 Vaquero. The latch screw assembly comes apart easily, but the $3 bit from Brownells made for the Ruger cylinder pin latch is worth every penny. Belt Mountain Enterprises, Inc. Frequently-Asked Questions. No barrels shorter than 4 5/8" around here, but you might want as short of a "head" on that pin to not loose any of that available short extraction. stainless ejector rod housing, which is a bit more complicated Without their skills and handiwork, our own efforts would be enormously diminished. conversion, go to www.beltmountain.com. http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/action-parts/base-pin-parts/base-pin-latches/base-pin-latch-ss-prod12203.aspx. As far as I can tell, the "sex bolt" assembly that locks the cylinder pin into place, isn't loose. Turnbull Manufacturing (color case hardening, carbona bluing) up. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. until the bevel of the working end of the bit has made a complete diameter cut. These two fit the cylinder perfectly, but the frame hole is just a couple of thou off. Sep 23, 2017 at 7:03am whitworth said: Yes, but Belt Mountain no longer produces them, Mike Rintoul does of Cast Performance. XR3 & XR3-RED grips do very nicely for moderately-recoiling Box 353 Happily, he is at home on double-action revolvers and is willing to undertake production of factory-style grips, a boon to S&W and standard Redhawk owners. That would never work. The 6-round ammo carriers are small, tidy and ride well on the off-side. How do you determine that? I consider it a necessary addition to any Ruger SA. Last year, Dad and I rebuilt a Flattop Ruger .44 magnum into a .45 Colt Packin' Pistol. Last year, Dad and I rebuilt a Flattop Ruger .44 magnum into a .45 Colt Packin' Pistol. In those days, we had never heard of LBT bullet moldsbut discovered a likely style from NEI which we use to this day. Powers' build sheet included the masterfully executed. the Old Army, the Belt Mountain conversion greatly improves the until the bevel of the working end of the bit has made a complete diameter cut. Lock up the gun in a medium vise. than the factory parts, and slightly oversized in diameter. I also prefer to load the cylinder using a Black Rainier, OR 97048 That is where the latch is interfering with the pin. .05" deep. PS - colored my locktite correctly now. and light hammer, lightly whack a index mark on the barrel. closest thing that we have to a time machine back to the Old One thing I had thought about at the time and discounted as probably unnecessary was having the base pin replaced. Based on a .500 Linebaugh (.348 Win. 330 gr. Belt Mountain is no longer in this picture. VETRAN LIKE MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHERS BEFORE ME. recoil. I don't have the tool, (split slot screw driver), to hold one side with while I try to loosen the other. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message . While it is always best to send complete guns for fancy grips to ensure the very best possible fit, Paul can work with just a Ruger or Freedom Arms one-piece grip frame which saves costly round-trip airfare and FFL transfer fees. revolver, the proof was in the shooting! and ball cylinder loading press, go to www.blackdawgecartridge.com. But, a Belt Mountain cylinder pin is made with a slightly larger diameter and a deep full-circle-groove where the latch pin catches the pin head. Bird's-Head grip frame, Belt Mountain Everything points to a good, solid lock up. Until I pull the trigger, and it slides forward. Here on the hill the solution is to buy the three pieces for the latch as a spare. Got something to say about this article? My feeling is that given proper maintenance Ruger single action handguns will not be plagued with much of this stuff. No, I used to but again they were taking a bigger bite. It seems simple enough, but as it sits, I don't see anything wrong with it. His latest addition to his roster of tools is a set of forcing cone/spot-facing tools with interchangeable pilot bushings. The tip of the screw measures .125" Dad decided to use a worn Click the following link to Those who think that Ordering through our website or the mail is: Visit our Base Pins page now to see the wide variety of styles and materials we keep in stock. Then snap the latch and remove the pin. 8. Belt Mountain base pins are available with a couple of types of locking screws that will keep the pin in place. friend Fermin Garza. If the latch returned sluggishly, or if it did not snap all the way, some metal needs to be removed in the retaining slot. gun was going to be Winchester factory, the pin should stay put. rear sight is right at home on a Ruger frame, especially on the If you have an old tip, you can slot it with a Dremel tool and a grinding blade (one of the few safe uses I ever have found for a Dremel). Very little hand fitting is done at the ruger factory. Much better to run around buying all sorts of aftermarket parts. Working in wood, ivory and a variety of other materials, Dustin is a welcome entry to the rarefied roster of first-rate grip makers. twelve rounds of factory ammo. The Belt Mountain Base Pin is .002 oversize, and the groove for the base pin catch is just . Worse still, the gun will fire and if the chamber and barrel are sufficiently misaligned, the bullet can crack a forcing cone. Defender: Achieving around 1000 fps in 4 in. I'm a big fan or the super Blackhawk and redhawks. spring kit is always a nice improvement, but John's The conversion is available in the problem of the base pin moving forward under recoil, and the Two, Using a hardened tool steel center punch (centered through the screw hole) of phenomenal. Had a Super Blackhawks for years and never had a pin walk unless the latch was battered. S&W and even 32 ACP, the ability to adjust the sights for Available in both blue and stainless and for Old and New Model Rugers, these Colt SAA-size parts are a great way to dramatically upgrade the quality of Ruger revolvers. I would prefer not to return the gun if at all possible. Anyplace that is foolish enough to let me shoot. 310 gr. Most are small shops or even one-man bands. No polishing required. those who are unfamiliar with a free-spin pawl, its function is The Belt Mountain conversion comes with It wouldn't hurt if they extended out past the screw a bit. Aint my first rodeo. Power Custom (specialty revolver parts) I've installed the stronger base pin spring from "wolff gunsprings" Now the base pin latch has some real strength, I can tell its much stronger now unlike the factory spring which made depressing the latch easy as popping a ball point pen. This means there is more surface contact between the pin and the latch than in the OEM design, which makes for more positive retention. Whether plinking at stumps and horse-apples in the pasture, the sight base is flat for use on an octagonal barrel, rather this will, as you probably know, shrink the base pin and slightly expand the revolver's cylinder frame. The pin at the rear is one made by Belt Mountain. I highly recommend Belt The only other addition was a Belt Mountain sheriff model base pin to allow a little more throw on the ejector rod. One of the most important upgrades you can make to your firearm is adding a steel base pin. the 22-sized Ruger Single-Six frame, it is absolutely essential. rob@rowencustomgrips.com. All the above is well and good, but none of You really want a hole just deep enough to have visible vertical sides. There is a flange around the pin, and a relief cut into the flange to clear the barrel. The following illustrated steps step The positioning of the index mark is the most critical part of the job. This one looks a bit stronger. And cheaper. The tip of the screw should bottom out down the hole in the barrel. This is a new gun with very few rounds through it. trigger engagement is therefore much improved, and this also No self-respecting .50 Special shooter is going to trash up his ammo with hi-performance flat-nose bullets. ultimate accuracy, it is important that a revolver's cylinder and Barranti Leather: www.barrantileather.com, Buy ammo online at Lucky Gunner: www.luckygunner.com, Unfortunately, any hand load even beginning to approach factory This problem has been around for many years. Or does it keep tightening until it won't "click" into place? of the screw fits down through the pin as far as it does with the pin out of the Such tiny I think the Base Pin is also carried by Midway. Our testing has always given excellent accuracy. 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